First of all the latest rumored "high bidder" for Furcal is thought to be the Braves whom are rumored to be offering a 4 year deal worth 52 million. The Giants so called offer stands at 2 years 18 million but he would also probably accept a 3 year 21 million dollar deal. Furcal's contract comes out to around 13 million on average over 5 years whereas Renteria comes out to only 7 million over 3 years, a whole lot less risky considering the fact furcal only played in 36 games last year.
Over his career Furcal has averaged 11 r 66 rbi's and a .286 average which is not shabby at all. as well as .353 obp and .412 slg resulting in a line of .286/.353/.412 but, with stellar defense. Renteria on the contrary has averaged 11 hr 72 rbi's a .290 average and an obp of .347 and a slg% of .405 which = a line of .290/.347/.405. Oddly how remarkable similar the two players are huh?
Both players have their fair share of questions marks though, Furcal is comming of an injury plauged season and his defense has regressed a bit. Renteria is comming off a season where he hit a very low (for him) .270 and only drove in 55 runs but also made 9 less plays than the average ss according to the fielding bible. At the same time I found it remarkable how similar last years stats were for Renteria compared to his previous only trip to the AL with the Red Sox in 2005 Renteria hit .276 with 8 hr and 77 rbi's before being shipped back to the National league where he hit .296 with 14 hr and 76 rbi's. You have to remember prior to going to the Tigers he hit .332 12 hr and 57 rbi's. And last year he hit .270 10 and 56. Again I don't expect the guy to hit .332 next season but I definetly think .290 12 and 65 is well in reach, which would be great offensive output from the ss position for us, only the orioles has worse production from the ss position last year. I think much of his regression last year could simply be attributed to playing in the American league similarly to what happened to him in 2005.
Over the last five years Renteria has 54 home runs compared to Furcal's 53. Renteria has average 64.2 Rbi's over the last five seasons compared to Furcal's 48.3 (albeit he only played 36 games last year but that's still a difference of about 8 rbi's per year had he been healthy) And lastly Renteria has averaged a .291.6 average the last five years while Furcal has hit, .284.4. As you can see not only is Furcal the much more expensive riskier option, but he has also not been as consistent or performed as well as my new friend Edgar Renteria. At the same time I truly do believe the Giants have a deal in place for Renteria but don't want to announce it out of fear of the Tigers offering Renteria arbitration to claim the Giants 2nd round pick I expect the deal to be announced sometime soon after December 2. I commend Sabean and the organization if this is the case for making a great decision they very well could be gaining the greater offensive player for half the price. Thank you
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Since seeing how great the youngsters did last year in the final months of the season (one game above .500 in Sept) while fighting for not only playing time, but a spot on the roster I have been opposed to signing any type of rent-a-player that doesn't have a long term place with the Giants when they become contenders, (I think this next year, but realistically a year or two) which is just about when Renteria's contract will be over. I understand that somebody has to play SS, with burris' arm a question mark, along with Frandsens production, but thats why we signed Ryan Klesko because somebody had to play 1st base right, and we all know how that ended up? It isn't the money that bothers me(we have plenty,) just the obvious lack of confidence Sabean has with Renteria's declining numbers by only offering him a 2 year deal. I am concerned that Sabean is thinking in the short term with Renteria rather than long term. For this reason I feel that Sabean should either be fired or recieve a contract extension, at least verbally from Neukom ensuring that even if we dont win the west he still has a spot in the front office, or else i can see us signing more rent-a-players to boost our record a few games this year, securing improvment and Sabeans job, but not dominance in the future. I say skip Renteria, he isn't the missing piece this team needs.
Mike first of all, I personally think Buriss's best position would be 2b due to the fact that his arm wouldn't be exposed and his range at 2b would be among the games elite. At the same token I think you can throw that Klesko comparison out of the window for a variety of reasons. For one Renteria is only 2 years removed from hitting .332 the last time he was in the national league as well, his bb/k ratio stayed very close to where it had been in years past and his power numbers Hr's 2b's were still in line with his other career totals. Also prior to signing with the Giants Klesko came off a season in which he only played in 6 games and prior to that season he had slugged a rather small .418. So either way this issue shouldn't be used as an examle.......At the same you must realize we don't have any viable ss option right now and the closest one (Brandon Crawford) is yet to play in a full minor league baseball let alone a full season. Renteria would not block anyone and as I said he's very comparable to Furcal offensively which is what were sorely lacking for almost half the price. Furcal has put up a line of .285/.352.,412 over his career whereas Renteria has been .290/.347/.407 and at least has proven he has been healthy the past two seasons. Renteria has also outproduced Furcal the last five seasons hitting for a .293 average compared to Furcal's .284 and has a .357 compared to Furcal's .345 and has even outnumbered Furcal (But Fucal hasn't played in about 100 less games the past year which should be an alarming concern if your going to sommit that money to Furcal. At the same time Mike I hear you but we only have 57 million dollars committed for next year and a gaping whole in the middle infield. Commiting 18 million over the next two years won't be a burden at all ecspecially considering the fact Winn, Molina and Roberts come off the books next year for a combined 21 million dollars. At the same time I think it's okay for Sabes to make a stopgap signing in this time becuase the current market for Furcal is to high in my opinion and as a result the other ss are being undervalued and Renteria is still a top 10 mlb ss in my opinion and getting a player for that kinda money and only for 2 years would be a steal. Also you must realize that it could be a blessing that it's only a 2 year deal I wouldn't want Furcal or Renteria more than 3 years tops and Furcal may get four even five. In the free agent pool there is no viable long term option at ss so you have to go with whats at hand. The last thing I want to do is trade Tim Alderson for J.J Hardy so the solution to that is buying a good ss for the next 2 years to fill that gap until A someone in the org is ready to take the reigns or B we are in a postiion to trade excess talent for a young long term ss which we aren't
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